Not the brightest bulb…
Is there anything against being raped by a dolphin?
It’s religion rant time!
Because it’s soooo easy to pick on it
just kidding!
Is there a God, in the sense that most people think of him (or her, for you feminists out there (though for ease I will refer to God as a him)). I see fingerprints of the possible evidence of God. Some days I notice it in culture, some days in law, some days in literature, some days in nature… and some days, in my own life. Trying to understand where God came from, his existence and all things related to him is most likely beyond anything my primitive imagination could conjure up. It is no different than a hive of bees or a hill of ants imagining the world of humans, the internet and the marvel that is the philly cheesesteak. Even the most brilliant people would agree that we only know a small fraction of a percent of the knowledge in the universe. Anyone with some semblance of intelligence must conceded that we don’t fully understand the universe. Neither Bible nor Quran (Koran) represents our best understanding of the universe… or why those damned philly cheesesteaks are so savory and flavorful. Answers to those questions and more will not be found in the Bible. Every specific science from cosmology to psychology to economics has surpassed and superseded what the Bible tells us is true about the world.
Often times I wonder if God wrote the Bible and if so, is it literally true. Clearly there is a spectrum of confidence within the text. I mean, there’s the “This is literally true, nothing even gets figuratively interpreted,” and then there’s the “This is just the best book we have, written by the smartest people who have ever lived, and it’s still legitimate to organize our lives around it to the exclusion of other books.” Anywhere on that spectrum I have a problem, because in my mind the Bible and the Qur’an (koran) are just books, written by human beings. There are sections of the Bible that I think are absolutely brilliant and poetically unrivaled, and there are sections of the Bible which are the sheerest barbarism, yet profess to prescribe a divinely mandated morality – where do I start? Books like Leviticus and Deuteronomy and Exodus and First and Second Kings and Second Samuel – half of the kings and prophets of Israel would be taken to The Hague and prosecuted for crimes against humanity if these events took place in our own time.
The Bible is NOT inerrant… unless, it is from its own claims. Even then, for example, when we look at Creation in the way Genesis describes it – you’d have to take away my socks, hide away the kleenex when I have a runny nose, steal my lovely “Take some time off” frame from my desk… and I still wouldn’t believe it. If you read what I poorly wrote previously (can be found >> here <<) you’ll see that while I do support evolution I’m not entirely against the miracles done by one “Mr.-Almighty-God.” Genesis should not be taken literally in my opinion, it is littered with too many metaphorical terms. And the basic point is that evolution by natural selection is random genetic mutation over millions of years in the context of environmental pressure that selects for fitness. One of my Bible toting friend actually asked me, “Well, who do you think is doing the selecting” and while I’m sure it was mockingly, I still answered frankly, “the environment.” You don’t have to invoke an intelligent designer to explain the complexity we see.
Another point I will admit is that we make all kinds of assertions based on our presuppositions. Both the scientific community (often times, atheists) and the religious community. However, there are some allegations against science and religion that I no longer ask. Certain laws are acceptable on earth, yet out in the vastness of space… those laws no longer apply (see: dark matter, dark energy, etc). On the other hand, I no longer wonder why if there was a God… why are fat people fat, why does such a great omnipotent being allow famine, pestilence and pain, etc. I would love to claim to be as smart as God…. but I’m not, maybe funnier than him, but certainly not more intelligent. If he exists, he knows better than I do. Sometimes you pray for a miracle to occur and God says ‘Yes’, sometimes it’s ‘No’ or maybe ‘Not yet.’ it’s all part of his master plan [I hope]. Science hides behind logic and rationalism, what of religion. Oh, feel free to take a break right now because I’m not done yet… go stand up, stretch your legs, maybe get a drink or play scrabble with friends… really, it’s okay. I’ll wait. Are you back? cool. Don’t worry, there will be many more breaks littered throughout.
Let me respond to this notion of answered prayer (see: paragraph before), because this is a classic sampling error, to use a statistical phrase. We know that human beings have a terrible sense of probability. There are many things we believe that confirm our prejudices about the world, and we believe this only by noticing the confirmations, and not keeping track of the disconfirmations. You could prove to the satisfaction of every scientist that intercessory prayer works if you set up a simple experiment. Get a billion Christians to pray for a single amputee. Get them to pray that God regrow that missing limb. This happens to salamanders every day, presumably without prayer; this is within the capacity of God. [cue rimshot for cheesy joke.] I find it interesting that people of faith only tend to pray for conditions that are self-limiting.
There are things in this world that we look at, we attribute to God – to be more precise miracles… and maybe Martha Stewart’s recipe for Bernaise sauce. For a moment of time, I also blamed many of his followers on the crimes done in his name… which was probably neither approved nor advocated. I recall previously condemning the followers of organized religion for some of the misdeeds they’ve done. There have been wrong things done in the name of religion, yes. However, there are just as many things done wrong by atheists (putting it midly *giggle*). This really is one of the great canards of religious discourse, the idea that the greatest crimes of the 20th century were perpetrated because of atheism. The core problem for me is divisive dogmatism. There are many kinds of dogmatism. There’s nationalism, there’s tribalism, there’s racism, there’s chauvinism. And there’s religion. Religion is the only sphere of discourse where dogma is actually a good word, where it is considered ennobling to believe something strongly based on faith
I’m sorry, you probably disagree with me. I’m quite dogmatic.
We have people flying planes in our buildings because they have theological grievances against the West. I’m noticing Christians doing terrible things explicitly for religious reasons – for instance, not fund-ing [embryonic] stem-cell research. The motive is always paramount for me. No society in human history has ever suffered because it has become too reasonable. You probably just happen to believe that Christianity saved reason. That we would not have the Bill of Rights without Christianity. Which is certainly a disputable claim. The idea that somehow we are getting our morality out of the Judeo-Christian tradition, in my opinion, is bad history and bad science. So I guess the question is where do we get our morality from. I caricature Christianity. If life is just random chance, then nothing really does matter and there is no morality – it’s survival of the fittest. If survival of the fittest means me killing you to survive, so be it. For years, atheists have said there is no God, but they want to live like God exists. They want to live like their lives have meaning. Our morality, the meaning we find in life, is a lived experience that I believe has, to use a loaded term, a spiritual component. I believe it is possible to radically transform our experience of the world for the better, very much the way someone like Jesus, or someone like Buddha, witnessed. There is wisdom in our spiritual, contemplative literature, and I am quite interested in understanding it. I think that meditation and prayer affect us for the better. The question is, what is reasonable to believe on the basis of those transformations?
What in your experience is making you someone who is not a Muslim? I presume that you are not losing sleep every night wondering whether to convert to Islam. And if you’re not, it is because when the Muslims say, “We have a book that’s the perfect word of the creator of the universe, it’s the Qur’an (koran), it was dictated to Muhammad in his cave by the archangel Gabriel,” you see a variety of claims there that aren’t backed up by sufficient evidence. If the evidence were sufficient, you would be compelled to be Muslim. If you are muslim, just use your imagination and switch to some other religion… you know, like, the opposite of yours 
All of the religions basically point toward truth. Buddha made this famous statement at the end of his life: “I’m still searching for the truth.” Muhammad said, “I am a prophet of the truth.” The Veda says, “Truth is elusive, it’s like a butterfly, you’ve got to search for it.” Then Jesus Christ comes along and says, “I am the truth.” All of a sudden, that forces a decision. Many, many other prophets and gurus have said that. Here’s the difference. Jesus says, “I am the only way to God. I am the way to the Father.” He is either lying or he’s not.
I wouldn’t put it in such an invidious way, but…. it is intellectually dishonest, frankly, to say that you are sure that Jesus was born of a virgin. You can say you accept that by faith and think it’s intellectually dishonest for me to say I have proof that it didn’t happen. You’d probably go on to tell me the difference between you and me. That you’re open to the possibility that you am wrong in certain areas, and I am not. However, you’re wrong. I am open to the [slim, hehe] possibility that I am wrong. Wrong about Jesus, wrong about religion, wrong about science/God. Heck, even wrong about Zeus and those other Gods that no one cares about anymore.
It is quite possible I am wrong. — as are most people who think evolution didn’t occur. How’s THAT for arrogance! Well, I think I’m also being honest haha.
The sins and solutions of the world, I attribute to myself. There’s no blame displacement here, no sir, none, nada, zippo, zip, zilch, ixnay, knick-knack-patty-whack-give-your-dog-a-bone. Don’t misunderstand when I say I am responsible for sins, they don’t include things like the bubonic plague or why Carlos Mencia steals jokes… I mean, I believe I am at fault for the millions of people who still contract malaria every year, or those who are afflicted with the HIV/AIDS virus, because I am held accountable for my life. I have never prayed “God, why don’t you do something about this.” To me, it’s clear what his response would be….
(God: “you were the answer to your own prayer).
…and to answer your prayer, yes… you may take a break. Don’t worry, we’re on the home stretch, I’m getting tired too lol.
The thing that bothers me about faith-based altruism is that it is contaminated with religious ideas that have nothing to do with the relief of human suffering. So you have a Christian minister in Africa who’s doing really good work, helping those who are hungry, healing the sick. And yet, as part of his job description, he feels he needs to preach the divinity of Jesus in communities where literally millions of people have been killed because of interreligious conflict between Christians and Muslims. It seems to me that that added piece causes unnecessary suffering. I would much rather have someone over there who simply wanted to feed the hungry and heal the sick.
Many of the great movements forward in Western civilization were by believers. It was pastors who led the abolition of slavery. It was pastors who led the woman’s right to vote. It was pastors who led the civil-rights movement. Not atheists. I brought up slavery so I could piss irony all over it. Slavery, on balance, is supported by the Bible, not condemned by it. It’s supported with exquisite precision in the Old Testament, as you know, and Paul in First Timothy and Ephesians and Colossians supports it, etc. Actually, let me rephrase… they allow it, not support it. I could argue that we got rid of slavery not because we read the Bible more closely. We got rid of slavery despite the profound inadequacies of the Bible. We got rid of slavery because we realized it was manifestly evil to treat human beings as farm equipment. As it is. Regardless whether you support it or not, allowing evil is no better.
How is it fair for God to have designed a world which gives such ambiguous testimony to his existence? How is it fair to have created a system where belief is the crucial piece, rather than being a good person? How is it fair to have created a world in which by mere accident of birth, someone who grew up Muslim can be confounded by the wrong religion? I don’t see how the future of humanity is in good care with those competing orthodoxies. The truth is, religion is mutually exclusive. The person who says, “Oh, I just believe them all,” is an idiot because the religions flat-out contradict each other. You cannot believe in reincarnation and heaven at the same time.
I don’t believe that someone whose spent much of their life on religion has wasted it though. At least, I wouldn’t put it in those stark terms, because I don’t have a rigid view how someone should spend their life so as not to waste it. My politically incorrect answer would be, I think you could use your time and attention better than organizing your life around a belief that the Bible is the inerrant word of God and the best book we’re ever going to have on every relevant subject.
I could probably go on and on, but let’s end with something light. Why isn’t atheism more appealing if it’s supposedly the most intellectually honest? Apart from, frankly, its terrible PR campaign. In all honesty, I think atheism is right next to things that you wouldn’t want to be… maybe not say, a child molester, but you get the idea. Most likely, and this is arguable, spread by religious people.
Closing thoughts, finally eh.
Religious Eric: I’m probably more spiritual than I think. I just don’t want a boss. I don’t want a God who tells me what to do.
Science Eric: I don’t want to pretend to be certain about anything I’m not certain about.
*sneaks in maple*
Just for you Alex 
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